Popular Post JaneB Posted August 8 Popular Post Share Posted August 8 Anselmino completes Chelsea move | News | Official Site | Chelsea Football Club (chelseafc.com) I have no idea what football is about any more, but more concerning I have no idea what Chelsea are about any more 😞 (Conor Gallagher, good enough for England, not good enough for Chelsea. "Thanks Conor for taking on the captaincy last season and for playing your heart out for the club you love, but now you can bugger off, you're surplus to requirements (and you're next Trev). We're only interested in balancing the books and signing young players nobody has ever heard of on practically lifelong contracts, and who we've no idea if they're any good. Out with the old and in with the new, none of whom will ever fight for the badge because none of them will ever have Chelsea in their hearts). 😔 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDCW Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 23 minutes ago, JaneB said: Anselmino completes Chelsea move | News | Official Site | Chelsea Football Club (chelseafc.com) I have no idea what football is about any more, but more concerning I have no idea what Chelsea are about any more 😞 (Conor Gallagher, good enough for England, not good enough for Chelsea. "Thanks Conor for taking on the captaincy last season and for playing your heart out for the club you love, but now you can bugger off, you're surplus to requirements (and you're next Trev). We're only interested in balancing the books and signing young players nobody has ever heard of on practically lifelong contracts, and who we've no idea if they're any good. Out with the old and in with the new, none of whom will ever fight for the badge because none of them will ever have Chelsea in their hearts). 😔 It certainly looks that way. I really hope these Americans and their cohorts really aren't as stupid, arrogant and ignorant as they appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy1905 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Welcome to Player Laundering F.C. A posh version of people trafficking. I'm hoping that UEFA actually sanctions us and puts a stop to this nonsense. Maybe then we can concentrate on being a football club and challenging/winning trophies rather than a vehicle for pure profit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, blueboy1905 said: Welcome to Player Laundering F.C. A posh version of people trafficking. I'm hoping that UEFA actually sanctions us and puts a stop to this nonsense. Maybe then we can concentrate on being a football club and challenging/winning trophies rather than a vehicle for pure profit. We badly need a multi-year transfer ban or at least until the squad size is reduced to a normal number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCreadie Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Welcome to the club Aaron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 53 minutes ago, McCreadie said: Welcome to the club Aaron! In my little cocoon the recognisable Aaron says.."Welcome home Ethan!"...... losing it now but hardly surprising at the "Oz" type world Chelsea seems to be turning into! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Kratos Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Welcome to the club Aaron. Whoever you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 This one is actually a transfer I don’t oppose. Signing him, Estevao and Paez makes sense. It’s not these signings I have a problem with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledblue Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 08/08/2024 at 19:42, Bison said: We badly need a multi-year transfer ban or at least until the squad size is reduced to a normal number. With a 25 man squad we would be forced to refine our numbers but as so many are under 21 they dont count against the 25. Maybe we keep both changing rooms for us and put a portacabin on the Fulham road for the oppo to change in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I am at a loss as to why so many young players would want to sign a long contract with a club where they are unlikely to get first-team football. Without that, their career is likely to be badly impacted. It reminds me of that Douglas Adams thing about the people who want to rule over others being those least suited to do it. Maybe the ones we want are the ones who sign for clubs where they get first-team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Sciatika said: I am at a loss as to why so many young players would want to sign a long contract with a club where they are unlikely to get first-team football. Without that, their career is likely to be badly impacted. It reminds me of that Douglas Adams thing about the people who want to rule over others being those least suited to do it. Maybe the ones we want are the ones who sign for clubs where they get first-team football. I suspect they are signing on wages that will set them up for life. Say £50k/week for 7 years. That’s £2.45m plus I suspect a fairly lucrative signing on bonus. For kids coming from poor conditions that’s an awful lot of money. Hell, it’s a lot of money for 95% of the global population. All for kicking a ball. If they don’t “make it”, they don’t even have the pressure of performing week in and week out. Just show up for training and go on loan to different clubs/countries. I can definitely see why they would and for the ones who believe they are good enough Chelsea still holds a special allure for young players who want to make it big in the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 27 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: I suspect they are signing on wages that will set them up for life. Say £50k/week for 7 years. That’s £2.45m plus I suspect a fairly lucrative signing on bonus. For kids coming from poor conditions that’s an awful lot of money. Hell, it’s a lot of money for 95% of the global population. All for kicking a ball. If they don’t “make it”, they don’t even have the pressure of performing week in and week out. Just show up for training and go on loan to different clubs/countries. I can definitely see why they would and for the ones who believe they are good enough Chelsea still holds a special allure for young players who want to make it big in the game. That's £18.2m actually . Totally set up for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) True, but for the ones who may be good enough in the future, that will only happen if they play regularly. Joining a club like Chelsea will actually damage their chances because they will learn much less on the seats behind the bench than playing for a lower-level club. I think most footballers dream of the honours and adulation not the money. Edited August 10 by Sciatika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 44 minutes ago, Ham said: That's £18.2m actually . Totally set up for life. Wow. No idea what happened there. You’re spot on. But that just strengthens my point, even if you’re only on £10k/week that’s still £3.64m over 7 years. I’d say the majority we have signed are in that range - £10-50k. Apart from Guiu who’s apparently on £100k/week. Which in itself is insane. 43 minutes ago, Sciatika said: True, but for the ones who may be good enough in the future, that will only happen if they play regularly. Joining a club like Chelsea will actually damage their chances because they will learn much less on the seats behind the bench than playing for a lower-level club. I think most footballers dream of the honours and adulation not the money. I can confirm that’s not the case. One of my absolute best and oldest friends are working as a coach at national level. Players today have agents from a young age and are predominantly concerned about their pay package and how many followers they have on Instagram. Of course there are exceptions to this rule, but he says there’s a big shift in attitude among young players today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Regarded as one of the best central defensive talents in Argentina despite only having 10 or so first team appearances thus far for Boca. Seems to have immediately displayed his natural ability and qualities in such a short period of time however, with commentary from some Boca supporters stating he was always destined to end up in a top European League. Obviously still very young, more so from a CB perspective, so may be a few years yet before we possibly see him. Hopefully has a strong season at Boca until January, then I imagine we'll either keep him at the club for a closer look or find him a European loan if we're able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping Dave Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 38 minutes ago, xceleryx said: Regarded as one of the best central defensive talents in Argentina despite only having 10 or so first team appearances thus far for Boca. Seems to have immediately displayed his natural ability and qualities in such a short period of time however, with commentary from some Boca supporters stating he was always destined to end up in a top European League. Obviously still very young, more so from a CB perspective, so may be a few years yet before we possibly see him. Hopefully has a strong season at Boca until January, then I imagine we'll either keep him at the club for a closer look or find him a European loan if we're able to do. One wonders if he’ll be able to acquire a work permit? Perhaps he’s a few years away from being able to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 43 minutes ago, Sleeping Dave said: One wonders if he’ll be able to acquire a work permit? Perhaps he’s a few years away from being able to do that? Pretty sure there was some rule changes a few years ago that's now made signing South American players a lot easier, so can't envision there being any problems considering we've already wrapped up the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 They’re spending money like ditchwater. 7 year contracts on players who may be dreadful, on the idea that they’ll either be sold or maybe will make it. Shocking business model. No one will sign for us on the basis that, you know, they want to play for Chelsea, a trophy-winning team. I know Todd ‘n’ Eggy come from a good place and they’ve certainly put their money where their mouths are, but the Chelsea that’s been such a massive part of my life for 45 years has gone. I feel almost totally disconnected from the club now, and it only took two years for it to happen. Were it not for you all here, I wouldn’t bother at all. 😔😔😔😔😔 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chara Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) @Chelsea_Matt despair not mate...although more "in your face" this time around I have had the same deflating ,to one degree or another, dump in the past,..."These Things Shall Pass," The game is changing dramatically everywhere..I don't mean so much on the grass, that is always in play,,but in terms of practically every aspect of the Administration of Clubs and Ruling bodies.... just take the game officials set up (please?) and the profound difference VAR has made to the game. Commercial focus has and is changing,,,just look at the number of Clubs in the USA this close season,,,certainly the priority wasn't preseason fitness etc, as I see it. Change is inevitable and should be a healthy thing...the maximum wage/Eastham affair,..sponsored shirts etc and even names on the back of shirts are a small example of non playing changes I have experienced over many years ,,,,the number of "rule" changes should be included. Not to say every change is a good change but fear not emoji Master,,, you are not alone.🥷👨🦯😉 PS...Saturday morning work shift followed by 3 o'clock at the local ground with flat cap and rattle is in the history books and old Pathe news reruns! Edited August 10 by chara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 46 minutes ago, chara said: @Chelsea_Matt despair not mate...although more "in your face" this time around I have had the same deflating ,to one degree or another, dump in the past,..."These Things Shall Pass," The game is changing dramatically everywhere..I don't mean so much on the grass, that is always in play,,but in terms of practically every aspect of the Administration of Clubs and Ruling bodies.... just take the game officials set up (please?) and the profound difference VAR has made to the game. Commercial focus has and is changing,,,just look at the number of Clubs in the USA this close season,,,certainly the priority wasn't preseason fitness etc, as I see it. Change is inevitable and should be a healthy thing...the maximum wage/Eastham affair,..sponsored shirts etc and even names on the back of shirts are a small example of non playing changes I have experienced over many years ,,,,the number of "rule" changes should be included. Not to say every change is a good change but fear not emoji Master,,, you are not alone.🥷👨🦯😉 PS...Saturday morning work shift followed by 3 o'clock at the local ground with flat cap and rattle is in the history books and old Pathe news reruns! Agree with all of this. But they’ve ripped the heart, soul and identity out of the club. I just don’t recognise it anymore. 👀💀🥺 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 16 hours ago, Chelsea_Matt said: Agree with all of this. But they’ve ripped the heart, soul and identity out of the club. I just don’t recognise it anymore. 👀💀🥺 It’s really hard not to agree with this and I feel very similar. Sadly, the sport we fell in love with is all about the business now and we were actually really lucky that we had Roman for so long as he was one of the owners who didn’t fully see it that way and genuinely loved the club… a very rare things these days. Maybe we’re all just less blind to it all these days with the amount that gets reported on and dissected by so many people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiswickblue Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 2 hours ago, My Blood Is Blue said: It’s really hard not to agree with this and I feel very similar. Sadly, the sport we fell in love with is all about the business now and we were actually really lucky that we had Roman for so long as he was one of the owners who didn’t fully see it that way and genuinely loved the club… a very rare things these days. Maybe we’re all just less blind to it all these days with the amount that gets reported on and dissected by so many people. I think you'll also find this business-like attitude in some of the fans that are so thirsty for success that they're happy to see academy players used as accounting tools. Even if there is a financial logic, being a football fan should be more about emotion than logic. If its isn't, what is it for? And I don't think it's straying into politics to say that Roman may have had non-emotional reasons to fund Chelsea the way he did. Just because the current owners have made plenty of errors we shouldn't think that the previous owner was a saint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea_Matt Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, chiswickblue said: I think you'll also find this business-like attitude in some of the fans that are so thirsty for success that they're happy to see academy players used as accounting tools. Even if there is a financial logic, being a football fan should be more about emotion than logic. If its isn't, what is it for? And I don't think it's straying into politics to say that Roman may have had non-emotional reasons to fund Chelsea the way he did. Just because the current owners have made plenty of errors we shouldn't think that the previous owner was a saint. St. Roman made mistakes but he’s so far above these utterly clueless clowns it’s incalculable. Because Roman loved football and he loved Chelsea. 🫶🏻😔👀💯 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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