ROTG

6 hours ago, NoblyBobly said:

Me neither. We have a player on loan somewhere called Maetson ( spelling). He was an academy product and a real prospect at left back. We will probably shift him out like CHO for 3.5 million ( or considerably less). 

You have the decimal point in the wrong place. The not so dynamic duo put £35m on his head. 
 

Mind you this is the same duo who put £40m on Broja’s head 😳

4 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

With him being a goal machine and elite it shouldn't be an issue 

I guess it comes down to who going to pay £40m for 31yo 
 

Quite bizarre how the club rate him at a higher value than forwards they have purchase over the past few windows 

2 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

Probably not , it's a difficult one . I don't think I'd be confident on spending £100m plus on Osimhen either ! 

The club have to move your favourite Chelsea striker first, before thinking about another striker. 

3 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

Anyone know much about Tosin Adarabioyo?

Looks like another one from Chitty academy. U23 during shields watch. 
26yo though 

feet to the fire on that one if the club try to do business with our neighbour from Putney. 
 

19 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

Cucu is coming along nicely

One would have thought the club would have brought the finished article given his age, transfer fee and £175k per week salary

18 hours ago, east lower said:

It was a kind of rhetorical response.

The press have got a friend on the inside in my view, but we have other issues and bigger priorities other than LB and GK - Centre-Half and Striker being two.

Getting the clubs finances with FSP sorted or confirmation there is an issue, before thinking about transfer movement.

Got a feeling recruitment will be limited as the not so dynamic duo have used up all their ex- employers target and players, and will hide behind the likes of Nkuku, Forfana, Lavia etc. being new signings.

This is another reason for them keeping their company man at the helm, unless he decides to walk

1 hour ago, Sleeping Dave said:

An interesting fact I wasn’t aware of. Apparently, since the turn of the year, only three teams has performed better than us. Arsenal, Man C and Liverpool. 

I can’t see how any person wants to get rid of Poch for footballing reasons. Sure, we are quite som distance away from the top three. But still. With a better injury record who knows where we would have ended up? Top five would definitely not have been an outrageous prediction. 
 

2024:

Arsenal                17      15      1        1        +44        46

Man C                   17      14      3        0        +34        45

Liverpool             18      11      4       3         +20        37

Chelsea                16        8       5       3           +9          29

5. Newcastle (28)

6. Villa (26)

7. Palace (25)

8. Tottenham (24)

9. Man U (23)

10. Bournemouth (23)

We have a pro-data full season of 69pts. Still some way to go before we are a solid 75pts team. But we’ve made great progress this year, no doubt about that. 

Just to put a bit of context. Of the current top 4 we have played 2024 the team have won 2/12 pts. 
 

Onward and upwards 

15 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

domestic? none. 

European & world?

Might as well throw in domestic final “ even though we lost them”

3 hours ago, paulw66 said:

Just read that this season is the first season since 17/18 where two Chelsea players have got double figures for league goals. 

Shows where the problem has been 

How many trophies have the club won since 17/18

25 minutes ago, RDCW said:

All goals are important, ask Man U and Forest and ask the boys who let a 2 goal lead slip against Arsenal. 

Whatever, you are so consistently on the wrong side of every argument that I now realise that it's deliberate on your part. I could kick myself for not having recognised it before 🤭

Ok. 
 

Not a problem, on every topic I will sing from the hymn sheet a the majority. With the exception of Poch, where the majority think he’s a complete looser, whereas I am of the opinion that he done an outstanding job with the bag of dolly mixture given to him by a couple of scouts. 
 

as I wrote earlier Poch, the bloke at Bournemouth and the new coach  a at palace, have improved the total points this season compared to the clubs totals last season. This a another data point that doesn’t suit the Poch is a looser agenda 

As for Jackson if he’s so good, why are the club actively “if you believe the media” looking for a No1 striker?

1 hour ago, Thiago97 said:

24-25 average age is still a young squad. Whilst I did say young, you are focusing purely on age.

The likes of Palmer, Lavia, Mudryk, Jackson to name a few, they might not be young as in they are still in their teens, but they are young in terms of first team experience. They barely have 100 first team games each to their name.

The lack of playing experience offers more scope for progress than their age in isolation.

Those you mention with Lavia when he was at Southampton will have had a full PL season under there belts, therefore it will be interesting to see their trend lines next season. Or should we will wait another couple of seasons as they are work in progress?

32 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

The young players are being exposed to a manager who has a track record of working well with young players. I would much rather they are exposed to this right now, as opposed to constantly having to train themselves to death to understand rigid tactical structures and live in fear of making a mistake or having an off day.........all that can come from the next manager within the next 2 years or so, when they should be at the stage of their careers where they have a greater understanding of the game,

The players are not that young, when you look at the recent starting 11. With key players returning from injury next season the starting 11 average age will probably 24 -25 that is not a young squad. 
 

Many of these players will be at their peek in ability next season, therefore it’s not the coaches fault if the standards required  to be in the top four are not met. 

1 minute ago, kev61 said:

I admire your patience.We  are improving because we signed a gem in Palmer and the players getting used to each other. 

Nothing to do with the coach.

Poch and the bloke at Bournemouth are the biggest improvers in total points compared to last season. 
 

Not forgetting the German bloke at Palace who got 21pts in his 12 PL games since his arrival 

19 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

I can't say I listen every week, just now and then really. It comes across as pretty fair and balanced to me. The guys on there have openly criticised the  recruitment process during the last 12-18 months. They have certainly questioned the current and last manager on a number of occasions, without jumping in two footed I would say.

It does not come across as a pro TBSD outlet to me.

All I can say is they SOC have gone from a squad assessment 2 months which they said certain players need to be moved on or loaned, to there podcast post or per  Forrest game when the did a complete 180 and everything is rosey in the garden. 

5 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

That poll must have been a good while back. There was one on Straight outta Cobham podcast recently which had 84% Chelsea want him to stay ( I don’t really believe it’s that high either)

 

SOC is a media outlet for the TBSD, they write some nice articles, however their podcast are very one sided and certainly not controversial,  like Yannick on football therapy 

Chelsea FanCast is always entertaining 

1 hour ago, boratsbrother said:

I'll take a charity bet right now with this prediction  - top 4 next season and a title challenge the season after. That's how confident i am about this squad and its potential.

Lets bet on next season and your top four prediction, name your price, although August would be a better time to do the bet

5 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said:

*puts tin hat on*. I actually quite liked Veron. 

I was a Crespo fan

Can I borrow your tin hat 😀

37 minutes ago, chiswickblue said:

He literally scored the winning goal in our last match.

I’ll give you that one, along with it being a WC pin point cross from RJ. 

56 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

Sometimes you just need to save yourself from the agony of the situation and row back. This really is one of those times.

The problem with where your argument on Jackson collapses is that absolutely zero people on here have built him up to be something he is not. The vast majority all agree he can be frustrating, he is far from the finished article, he is not at the level to spearhead a title challenge in the next 1-2 seasons (he may never end up that player either)

The main reason you have taken some stick on this is because you had a complete guess up based on the clubs who liked Jackson. That was your metric for judging the player.  It's easy to disguise things however you want and claim he is not Chelsea level, we haven't won anything, we will be looking for another striker in the summer....all as some sort of justification for Jackson not cutting the mustard here.

The reality is that you had a guess up and got it wrong. In many ways , its not actually as bad as praising/criticising a signing based on your judgement of watching them. That's getting it completley wrong. You just took a wild stab in the dark and got it wrong, nothing that bad really. At least just own it though and hold your hands up to it.

He may never become a top class striker, but I don't see anyone saying he will. However, to sign a young inexperienced striker for £30m and to have to throw him in nearly every week to lead the line with little to no senior guidance around him, and he returns some positive numbers for his first season at this level.......well its just bizarre to not recognise and praise this. It's an excellent achievement , even more so when you take the whole context of the last 18 months at Chelsea into account.

The moral of all this is don't have a guess up unless you actually know the player in question.

 

No guessing by me, it’s about analysing what he’s done and when he’s done it during a game.  
 

although he has hit some decent numbers a majority of them were when the team was coasting. Cant remember him scoring the all important goal to win a game.  

36 minutes ago, thevelourfog said:

Hugely compromising us as a long-term asset to temporarily manage a short-term problem entirely of their making. I'm sure it's actually "genius", though.

 

One hopes this is not true, all those years of Uncle Ken & Roman making sure the club owned everything gone with 24 months to compensate for mismanagement of transfer funds.

Are these lot any better than the Glazers???

11 minutes ago, Chelsea_Matt said:

We will see.  But I don’t think he “bossed” anything.  You can make “metrics” prove anything. “Metrics” don’t disprove what I have seen so far  which is a slow, weak midfielder who doesn’t appear to be suited to the PL. I don’t think he’s useless; I just don’t think he’s right for us.

Personally, I’m far from impressed for the money we paid (though that isn’t Enzo’s fault)  and if I had to choose I’d go with Gallagher over Enzo. 

However! As always I’m very happy to be proved wrong because it would mean that the team is doing well, which is what we all want. 

Maybe a certain pro Enzo poster should look at the players assisting him in the midfield area in the team when his metrics were good. Kovic, Havertz, Felix, Mount, Gallagher, Loftus-Cheek, were regulars pre and post the nobody coach

He was also protected with the team continually switching to a back 5 and him playing the deep midfielder role. Enzo metrics for 2 - 5 meter passes was outstanding 

13 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

End of debate!

There was never a debate just a case of you clutch at straws trying to prove Jackson is something he is really not

2 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

YouTube 'football therapy' guy said Poch has clarified his position and would like to stay if the owners want him.

 

Yannick is a spokes person for TBSD 

He continually say the words it’s a project,  the process and young team. 

30 minutes ago, Ham said:

What's worse is when Sutton says on commentary "he's got to get that on target". 

I think back to watching him trip over the ball with only the keeper to beat.  

Correct 

He did have his Andy Warhol moment against ManUre. 😀

7 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

Yet in a much worse team he has managed to score more goals than any Arsenal forward. Furthermore, he's had  a consistent season while Havertz was  crap for the first half of Arsenal's season.

 

 

 

Havertz at 21 didn’t fluff his lines a major cup competition.