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Thanks for the article. I would say he isn't a good manager, he's an average manager; his burst at Spurs was more down to other teams not performing and a burst of momentum/form at the right time, clearly it was a fluke. However, I'd argue it was built for him, from the time it was made clear he would be manager we started seeing some very very important changes in the squad and he kept talking about the 'project', and how he was working with the club to forsee this mega project. He has had his hand in it, if I was coming into the club the first thing I would have advised is no changes take place in the first season unless I felt they really needed to take place, now I know it's not football manager, but I'm fairly sure that most Chelsea fans who have atleast been of adult age since the start of RA's era could sit down and work up where the previous squad needed improving and pick a few quality players they would like to bring in. If Poch was looking for a long-term job he should have looked on how to improve the previous squad, not decide it needed gutting, now I'm not saying we didn't have issues in that squad, but they were nowhere near the level in which they were made out to be; I think for the first time in a very long time the club was able to convince the supporters it wasn't their bad decision making with the manager choices or their treatment of particular players, but instead it was the players themselves who wanted to destroy the club. Has anyone ever seen a former player celebrate a goal? Kovacic couldn't contain his happiness. Has anyone ever seen players leave a club in a group and express their disapointment at being seperated knowing it could backfire at rival clubs? I'm not shifting the blame from the players, but these guys weren't out to exploit the club, hell they all played out of their skin and at times ability to get us a CL; and who knows when that will happen next. I think it's time for us to get in a manager who knows how to find out if a player will ever be good enough without them having to play 15 games, yes there will be mistakes and some players will slip through, but that's football, our aim needs to be results and silverware for the club, not rotating young players in the hope they all improve at the same rate and keep their valuations. I think it's a blessing in disguise we have had so many injuries, imagine being 18 to 22 years old and sitting out games because a more expensive 18 to 22 year old is priority for marketing reasons. The squad isn't just a mess from a quality standpoint, it's a mess from an age standpoint. What makes it worse is we have a manager who simply cannot grasp any of it, struggles to make decisions, and thinks rotating players and being nice will keep him in the job; and it may, but it comes at a cost to the fans of a club which has a huge reputation of winning big; very big.

Yep, they aren't even hiding it anymore. At least Serie A were being threatend by the mafia, our footballing body is the mafia.

TT I'd welcome back, but you know he's more Jose/Conte than he's Poch. While he might handle the press better and hug the players more, he will also put them to the sword when they're not performing. Honestly mate I think every decision since RA was forced out has had no footballing knowledge behind it. Marina was too powerful for the new owners, they couldn't put up with someone who could demand more respect than them, but the moment Cech left I felt as if the new owners were going to remove everything to do with the previous owner; all new owners do it to a cetrtain point to stamp their mark, but ours chose to do it in a manner which set us back to 2003; or maybe even further. Also, and I'm not entirely sure, but the last time we finished outside of the top four 2 seasons in a row was 2002?

Nah we haven't, we've struggled compared to what standards we have set over the years, but we were never square one; fans forget far too quickly.

Poch was never born with a winning mentality in the first place, rather take those who 'died years ago' than that who never lived. We haven't left square one, we're still on it.

Yeah but Colwill is generational, Caicedo is a powerhouse and stops us conceeding, and and, Gallagher is proper Chels!

Carlo with Everton? I think Jose proved at Roma he's able to take an average side and win something. Also Carlo bailed when he got the chance, what makes you think a manager in Carlo's position would even give us a glance? I don't mind who they blame, they left us with a winning mentality, they installed it, not those who sacked them or got them sacked. Your rant seems like if you don't want something to happen then it shouldn't happen, Jose or Conte would be able to come in and seperate the squad into two groups, one group who has the quality to make it, and one group who doesn't; the current manager or some other airy fairy manager couldn't do that because they themselves would be in the latter group. Rant all you want, reality is Jose and Conte mop the floor with Poch. Can you explain how they aren't the managers they once were? Where have they failed? They've always been the same, and they get results, even if they have to become the enemy to achieve them; rather that then this 10th in the league nonsense while making out like we're some power house of a club. The reason fans don't want neither back is probably more to do with them being unemployed and still rejecting us.

Those 'drama queens' get the job done, who wants a manager for 8 years when having 3 different managers in the same time could win you more? Carlo is the same, the difference is he will bend to the club's will more than Jose and Conte will; the latter two tend to hold their club to account. If making sure you're bigger than the players is a bad thing, then bring on the bad times, because Poch has zero impact. Fans don't need to worry about what managers look like to the media, other club's fans and even the FA; in particular Chelsea fans, because the only time our manager is liked is when he isn't winning. The more they're hated the better because it means they're getting the job done. Also we do need a prima donna coach, and we need one badly, because currently the team has the personality of a wet mop.

Watching us play (against opposition who are in the same league as us) 22 games into the season is like watching us play 2 games into the season, I understand the squad is in transition but what I don't understand is why Poch is in transition; man must have amnesia because he's acting like he has never coached in the league or at any level above the Championship. He's picking starting line-ups which don't make sense, he's then making subs to try and fix the mistake rather than add something to his tactics, and he keeps doing it over and over. If this is the type of manager we wanted, someone who doesn't have a clue but we will be willing to stick with him in hope that he one day does, then we could have just kept Potter or Frank around; honestly they probably had more potential because Poch has had zero growth in the time he has been here, actually, he hasn't had any growth since his Spurs days. The best thing for the club would be to bring Jose back, let him go through the team with a fine comb and highlight the key areas we need to improve in order to become competitive again, if it doesn't end well then so be it, it's not like we'll be caught out by surprise, but right now we need a seriously good manager; at the moment we've got a manager who's the equivalent of a youth player making his senior step up; because the alternative is he's a senior player who got jammy when being promoted from youth level and has spent the last few years conning everyone. We've all seen players with a repuation be flops, Poch is our worst manager ever, he has no style of play, at least with someone like AVB or Scolari you could see what they were trying, yes it was bonkers at times but you could see the attempt behind trying something; with Poch there's nothing at all, there's the odd individual moment from a player but no style of play or shape to the team at all. We are lacking quality in the squad, no doubt, but our current manager hasn't got the quality to highlight those areas, he simply doesn't know what to do. Also it's not like he has been blindsided by the club, he signed up for all this and watched the club tear chunks out of the squad and bring in lower quality players, and that's the reality of it; the majority of our signings are nowhere near the level of player they've replaced, and there's huge question marks over if they ever will be. Who has come in, started off slow, and then gone on to explode in quality? No one. Palmer is the same as when he arrived, he'd already shown he could play neat football and do some tricks at City, Nkunku is coming back from injury so he's void, Gusto was already showing flashes. Caicedo has flopped (the dynamic, energetic, strong tackling, consistent, playmaker, etc...did not arrive), for those who don't think he has flopped, what he's doing for us could have cost us at least £70M less. Enzo has gone backwards. Madueke was a bad buy. Sterling has even gone backwards, as a senior player too. Badiahile seems to be a prank played on us. Colwill has had zero development to his CB game and is never going to expand his game enough to become a FB. Mudryk wasn't great when he arrived, but even he has found space to go backwards in his development. Poch is just the wrong person for this squad, we need a strong headed manager who has a history of success, who can walk into the club and demand he's heard by showing his credentials, and it needs to happen right now.

Might be a good idea, the default is a 2-0 loss right?...could be worse, we could play the game.

Let me know when it happens, I'll give them both a leg up.

I think the club and Poch have used injuries to hide not only their own, but also the squad's incompetences

To be fair Mudryk did well with that run, but then it just went to waste with this recycling the ball style, I remeber fans getting frustrated with Sarri, this is far worse.

Haven't we suffered enough lol

Badiashile needs to replace the 'L' in his name with a 'T'.