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This is why the world is in the state that it is. Tbf who buys a two fingered KitKat anyway? Ludicrous behaviour and asking for trouble. Sadly though the kid will probably grow up to be a Dipper or a Spud. ( Shoe size 5 ?? What is he, a Japanese trans??)

I thought you looked familiar

The midfield looks about the best we can muster. Cole back is massive. Jackson is Jackson. Pleased to see Sliva there. Right back a bit of an issue and the keeper an issue. Tbh does any of us know what’s going to happen ? Win by six or lose by six. Ever the optimist In going to plump for a win.

Both of those are seared into my memory … but I try to hide them there.

I was there!! David Speedie hat trick I believe. I suppose we have to thank the dippers for this as we’d been kicked out of Europe as the Best Fans in the World had been utterly shaming the nation yet again.

What we need in there is a Havertz type player. sanchez! Are we placing bets on the minute of the first brain fart?

I see the wheels are coming off the Dipper Wagon 🤣

Got anymore irrelevant facts! But good to know they were a very decent team and not a bunch of bottlers.

Mike Rice! And where is he now? Sounds like a film script. I bet you still own those Woolworths plimsoles!

I don’t know actually but I know the team we beat wasn’t 14 points above us in the league. I also know that this was a title winning team all around that timeline …before and after . 2009 , 2014, 2016. Some changes of coaches and personnel for sure but with that same winning mentality. We were not to be messed with. Teams have been messing with us for the last 4 years.

No one is forcing you to do anything and you’re not trying desperately to end this but you desperately trying to get the last word. With a topic like this on “ who was the best team” or “ which team is more deserving” or “ which team is more fortunate” or “was zola a better player than Drogba” , it largely comes down to feelings, perceptions rather than some xg philosophy. But I could argue 14 points is a clear indication of a quality gap. Now I could also argue until the cows come home that the 2012 team should easily beat the 2021 team in a one off match. But you could equally argue otherwise. I could argue that Lampard also stood a good chance of winning the CL with or without Havertz in the team. what is important is that we won both . It frustrates me that we’ve only won two CLs because I truly believe we deserved another one or maybe two. We were sooooo bloody good. But I suppose that’s just bad luck or as Gary Neville would say “ it wasn’t quite written in the stars”.

I would disagree. My moment would be the dismantling of the young team in Lampards first season. It was a super little outfit that only needed a couple of additions. We brought in 6-7 players who were mostly overpriced and over rated. Silva on a free was the great but not much else. That team saw the demise of three coaches …Lampard , Tuchel and Potter. The replacements for those players were no better and will lead to the sacking of the fourth coach at the end of this season. Not everyone agrees but that’s my timeline to disaster .

Yes we were lucky that City didn’t show up on the day, because clearly they were the better team over the course of the season. 14 points above us was not luck. We barely made top 4 and have struggled ever since. We definitely outplayed them on the day. 2012 ….A penalty shoot out is a lucky or unlucky way to decide any game. You are missing the point about the quality of players we had in those two sides.

Let’s hope!

You can’t make two opposing points in the same post. You say first that luck played a part in neither game, then you say “every game has luck” and then you finish with “we were way more lucky in 2012”. I actually think you’re getting yourself in a muddle.