Thiago97

Yeah I think that is a fair position to take on Kompany. In terms of what we want the manager to do. I actually think this is quite simple, if we go out and sign 3-4 experienced quality players through the spine of the team. Then I want the manager to produce a serious top 4 challenge. I don't believe that is unrealistic, when you factor in the improvement of the players we already have. I'm in the minority on here, but I think Poch has done enough to be given the opening shot at achieving this. If he got those players in, I think we would know within the first 10-12 games if Poch is up to that challenge. If he isn't , we move him on and look for someone else to take the challenge on. I don't necessarily think the season is a write off, if we act early enough, should we need to. I'm convinced a peak Azpilicueta, Rudiger, Matic (just 3 examples of solid quality professionals who lead) in our team for 30 games this season, we have an additional 9-13pts. That puts us in the mix for top4 with 5 games to play. Find three current equivalents of these players, with one of them being a number 9........no excuses for any decent manager not to be pushing for top4 right until end of the season.

No way is it +90%. That's not to say it couldn't be by the end of the season, but not right now. Tuchel hugely unlikely. If you believe Simon Johnson, who clearly has some ear within the club, then the current owners apparently wish they had sacked him sooner and Tuchel hated working under this regime. I just can't see how TT is an option. Poch used to get slated for not winning Ligue 1 in his first year there, I would say TT not winning Bundesliga is pretty similar barometer, for those who use that barometer. Jose is just a big NO with this squad of players. It would collapse within itself after 12-18 months. If we are looking for a new manager in the summer, we need someone who is respected as an inspirational leader. Someone who has been there and done it as a player, also with the benefits of playing within the current era, and who can identify with our current players, and also be relatable to our current players. A modern and articulate coach, who plays progressive football and is fearless in his philosophy, but knows what it takes in terms of mentality and professionalism a to be an elite level player, and can set the standards required to achieve this for our young squad. Step forward Vincent Kompany.........took over a relegated team who had been under the same direct and pragmatic manager for the best part of a decade. He ripped up the whole playing style/structure of the club and turned them into comfortable champions with a young team within his first season. He has not had millions to spend in the PL and has a squad limited on PL level players and experience, yet they have identified young hungry players who have improved throughout the season. They may get relegated, but that's down to how they performed in the first half of the season. Kompany and his players have grown over the season , started to improve and get to grips with the league, though it looks like that will come too late to save them. If we are going down the road of a change. Then Kompany is the man who appeals most to me. An iconic PL player during his time at City, he was their JT and leader, and he has started his managerial career off in a really positive manner. City don't need him, Utd couldn't really appoint him, LIverpool have gone another route. We need a strong generational leader, and I am sure he would jump at the chance to come here.

What a man! One of my favourite ever players before he signed here, so to have the pleasure of him playing for the club I support has been just fantastic. I hope he does come back in the future, the club will be richer for his return in whatever capacity it is in. Absolute legend!

Obviously don’t watch them is quite funny. As I called this out to you 7 months back 😂

The keeper very much counts when the manager has been so specific about playing out from the back. It’s still five cos Adringa came back improved after a successful loan. So I’m happy with 5-6 , cos it is at least 5 from that line up. I would not criticise De Zerbi on the recruitment , cos he may have only had small influence on that. Just like I wouldn’t praise him on recruiting players who signed before he joined the club . Anyway, I suspect we have done this to death and he’ll be on the market ina few weeks time. Let’s see how he gets on in his next role.

Final point on this, cos you just won’t get it! Look closer to home with this last paragraph. De Zerbi walked into what is widely regarded as one of the best set up’ and infrastructure in the PL. The team was playing well and everything was rosy, which he then improved during that season, and he deserves credit for that. Poch walked into a club that had been a basket case for the previous 12-18 months, with many voices all wanting to be heard and with a squad of about 10-15 new players all being bedded in, whilst all the experienced players had left the ship . Yet you talk about judging things from a fair and consistent viewpoint. I think it’s blindingly obvious to anyone with any understanding of football, that one of these two jobs is currently much more difficult than the other.

I’m not wrong though. Your post referred to last season in terms of comparison. The keeper , Barco , Igor, Adringa, Joao Pedro were all not in their squad last season. That’s 5 players , I’m not familiar with the RB or player listed in the striker position, I don’t know their back history. These players are new signings for this season, in some cases (Adringa) they may have been signed before and out on loan last season, much like we do……they are still new signings to the Brighton squad this season, and still players that the club actively recruited and have been playing throughout this season. Everyone wants to laud their recruitment, until results trail off and then the recruitment isn’t as good as the players from last season who are injured ! Like I said, watching but not paying attention.

About 5-6 of them are new signings. So someone at the club decided that they wanted these players at the club to play in the eleven you have posted. You claim to watch most of their matches, but I’m not sure you are paying any attention when watching them. Club run by data savvy businessmen and all the data displays a downward trend. It’s got Brighton and De Zerbi part company by mutual consent written all over it, in approx 6 weeks time. I doubt they will even be fussed about waiting for the compo pay off, should a club try to appoint him.

Does Poch maybe out last De Zerbi ? Just a bit of fun 😊

Personally, I think some of his more dangerous looking periods is when he has played more centrally, more in the No 10 role. It seems to free him up to play more off the cuff, rather than having to carry out specific instructions from a wider role. Obviously , Palmer has been very good playing in these areas too, which has limited Mudryk appearing centrally. I do think it’s worth a shot though and I would like to see Palmer left and Mudryk central at some point in the final few games. I think we would see improvement here, as I also think some of his better combination plays have tended to be with Jackson, more than any other player.

I would say that is how you choose to interpret his posts. I don’t read his posts that way at all. I know this won’t make me popular, but I can’t say I’m too bothered by that. Celery don’t need me to defend his corner, but the problem is that if you post with degree of understanding of the big picture, including circumstances of many factors, and in general an understanding of the grey areas involved. You end up misunderstood when things are not going well( we are now in about 24 months of not going that well) because football fans by nature are fuelled massively by tribalism, I accept that is what also makes the atmosphere, passion, joy too. Everything’s shit and it’s obvious why, or everything is great and it’s obvious why. Unfortunately , that’s the majority within football. If you can’t see that everything is shit or brilliant , you’re viewed as an idiot or a fence sitter. When neither is true, it’s more a case of viewing situations with more nuance than the majority.

I did actually call what was happening back in September when yourself and Max were waxing lyrical about him. I repeat 29ts from their last 27games , goals scored declining , xG declining. Don’t try and play basketball with Brighton, results are there to be achieved. Far too many De Zerbi fan boys think they are the smart ones who can see what others can’t . I don’t think he is a bad manager. I just don’t think he is as good as the De Zerbi hipsters think he is. Generally speaking , and I accept there are always circumstances involved that I’ve to be taken into account.The aim is to sign managers and players on an upward curve, or before they hit their upward curve. You don’t spunk millions to get a manager out of another club whose record is currently on a downward trend, especially when it is clear the surprise element has gone and the opposition have worked things out. I genuinely believe Brighton have no issue with losing him right now. They are staying very quiet on De Zerbi, waiting to bleed dry the first club that comes calling.

I didn’t say their style had changed. I said the opposition have worked out how to get a result, and so far, De Zerbi has not found a way around this. If the season started a month later, they would be just ahead of the relegation candidates! They may have lost good players, but they still have good players. The whole infrastructure is excellent, which is why they continue to find good players to replace who they lose.

29pts from his last 27 games. In no world would we consider this as a legitimate option to be manager here. Goals scored have dropped off, goals conceded are on the increase. I would describe him as a radical manager who will always be open to swings in performances . He’s been worked out this season and as yet he has not found a way to get around that. He wants the opposition to engage and press his team, that creates space for his vertical passing. Now teams no longer engage and just sit in and let Brighton have the ball, the results have been on a downward trajectory. Iraola at Bournemouth laid the blueprint out in their defeat at Brighton earlier this season, others have picked up on this since. Timing is huge in football, why would you employ a manager where the surprise factor is all but gone. That’s not to say he is not a decent manager, but it was hype he could never live up to long term . I’m fairly confident that’s why Liverpool have not tried to get him. The allure has gone and to employ him now has mistake written all over it .

I don't really see what is being said here. Allowing for some areas maybe lost in translation, it constantly refers to them as attacking defenders.I guess they mean proactive defenders who play out from the back and build up play. Badiashille is a curious case. I am really not sure what has gone on there, cos he looks a shadow of the player we seen last season. Could be injury, confidence shot after mistakes (his mistakes lets not forget), something in the background we don't know about. Disasi has not been destroyed. He is a steady PL level CB, if Disasi had been signed by Wolves, Everton, Fulham for say £20million, I doubt many Chelsea fans would even have noticed him this season. I had a quick look into them playing together and notice they did make a good 30+ plus appearances the season before Badiashille joined, but so did a Chilean CB, and so did two fullbacks/wingbacks.........so that great defensive foundation we went and signed, could well have been padded by being in a back three and in a low scoring league.......you would hope the people we employ to look at players like this, take some of the context into the equation! The french league is not really known for being a high scoring league, compared with PL and Bundesliga.