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Oranges to Oranges… or maybe not. A Comparison smile topic for the Off Season Only


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An offering for the Faithfull to help get us past the Media rinse repeat transfer and rumour mill.

Just for the Off season...

The point of the topic is simple....with all the long term real football wisdom and memories across the Forum… Every week, with a cut off you are asked to comment on straight comparisons between two players, in addition you are asked to,,if so inclined, to send in requests that will be entered every week… Form provided below.

Rough guide lines… not including current players,,that happens all the time… not including Chelsea v Chelsea player comparisons… again a natural recurring theme over the season.

Try to avoid such obvious done to death comparisions, such as JT/Rio..Lamps/Slippy. Inspired couplings would be appreciated. I already have next weeks very interesting match up from one of our very top posters… watch this space.

First offering....

Compare....SFL and Beckham...not too inspired but a gentle starter

 

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Quick follow up,,,,,, don't go back too far... not everyone is an OG!..... any nationality and although I may be stating the obvious not exclusively Chelsea v A N OTHER,,

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I guess I had better get the ball rolling....

I chose SFL/Beckham after some idle musing ...both players whilst top top players  maximised their skill sets through application and hard work...neither..or if fact hardly anyone.. had  ..to my mind ..the almost super human attributes of Messi in his prime.

Frank as a player had far more sheer home club (deserved)adoration than DB to my mind who had the approval of the fans wherever he played rather than the loyalty and regard from the Chelsea faithful afforded Frank...I don't think DB had the same sort of continued fan interest in his career once he moved on as opposed to Frank.

Skill set?....Bend It Like Beckham ?....but Score Like Lampard?.....again both players maximised what they had,,unlike many skilled players who took the easy way.

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Lampard and Beckham… and interesting one. The first thing that springs to mind is how they ‘arrived’. Beckham ‘burst’ onto the scene following that goal vs Wimbledon and very quickly went from unknown kid to household name, helped of course by dating and then marrying one of the biggest popstars at the time. Lampard however, was known largely as Harry Rednknapps nephew and not much rated by many and it took him years of hard work to get recognition, and not really until Roman arrived did people start to see the Lampard he became, the greatest goal scoring midfielder the league has ever seen. 

Im bias obviously, but if I had to pick it one of the two for my team, it’s Lampard every day.

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On 11/06/2024 at 21:10, chara said:

I guess I had better get the ball rolling....

I chose SFL/Beckham after some idle musing ...both players whilst top top players  maximised their skill sets through application and hard work...neither..or if fact hardly anyone.. had  ..to my mind ..the almost super human attributes of Messi in his prime.

Frank as a player had far more sheer home club (deserved)adoration than DB to my mind who had the approval of the fans wherever he played rather than the loyalty and regard from the Chelsea faithful afforded Frank...I don't think DB had the same sort of continued fan interest in his career once he moved on as opposed to Frank.

Skill set?....Bend It Like Beckham ?....but Score Like Lampard?.....again both players maximised what they had,,unlike many skilled players who took the easy way.

Beckham became a media icon in his latter time at UTD, wearing some very odd fashion outfits and having multiple hair styles. 

So Beckham had a certain media exposure as a celebrity Lampard can never reach. 

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17 minutes ago, jasonb said:

Beckham became a media icon in his latter time at UTD, wearing some very odd fashion outfits and having multiple hair styles. 

So Beckham had a certain media exposure as a celebrity Lampard can never reach. 

Thank god!!!

And I'd have more time for Beckham if he'd instilled any sort of work ethic into his children (bit off topic I know)

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@JaneB...took the words out of my mouth,,or rather typing finger!...not off fopic at all...of field behavour is part of a comparision..Pele/Maraddona...one an Ambassador of the game,,the other a disgrace..for me.

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There must be lots of comparisons to make but the only completely unoriginal one I can think of is Messi vs Ronaldo.

The word 'great' is thrown around a lot but these two really were/are.

Maybe you can only be called a real 'great' if you did it for club and country.

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That was me!

I picked these two, because I feel like they have similarities in their career and also an obvious difference in that Defoe moved about a fair bit and Le Tissier stayed at one club.

Where I feel they’re similar is that neither got/went to a top club in their career, but in my mind we’re good enough to do so and also neither had the international career their talent probably deserved. Le Tissier more so than Defoe, but from memory Defoe’s England appearances were more often from the bench than starting (mainly due to him playing at a time when we had Owen and Rooney).

Which one was better? Should either of them have moved to a top club in Europe?

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For me it has to be Le Tissier , he was always his own man , staying at Southampton despite being wanted by many clubs ours included , where Defoe was a very good striker and could probably have moved to a bigger side , Le Tissier was a mercurial talent for whom football seemed to flow through him in an innate gift , Defoe demands our respect as a man after the way he treated the little boy Bradley which was a beautiful thing and Le Tissier has his "mad" side which I find endlessly interesting .  Football though , Le Tissier every time.

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