Injury News

[Mark Kelly]

32 minutes ago, east lower said:

The next week, yes - ‘Destroyed them’ were the words that Lambert said.

He was making them come in the day after the game and running them legless again. The older pros had a chat and Lambert (with another seasoned pro) went to talk to the coach. He agreed and then did the opposite, in my opinion just to polish his ego and show them who ‘the boss’ is.

Tosser.

Yes .

I wonder why all our players are injured?

All roads lead to Poch .

He's getting tubbier by the week too , eating his feelings I expect and now looks like someone has stuck a wig on a space hopper.

[Chelsea_Matt]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

Yes .

I wonder why all our players are injured?

All roads lead to Poch .

He's getting tubbier by the week too , eating his feelings I expect and now looks like someone has stuck a wig on a space hopper.

Mr. K 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Miguelito07]

take the following with a pinch of salt, got the following from someone who posted on weaintgothohistory site:

"I might have a very minor source within the club and I was told some comments were made about Nkunku possibly retiring due to his knee. Don't know how true it is, but I don't have any reason not to believe what I was told. I hope it isn't true!"

[east lower]

26 minutes ago, Miguelito07 said:

take the following with a pinch of salt, got the following from someone who posted on weaintgothohistory site:

"I might have a very minor source within the club and I was told some comments were made about Nkunku possibly retiring due to his knee. Don't know how true it is, but I don't have any reason not to believe what I was told. I hope it isn't true!"

Heard something very, very similar a while back, but it was about Fofana.

[Mark Kelly]

Here's' why our players are always injured and are now also ill .

This is what they do all day every day:

Gacon Test (Running 45"/15")

The "Gacon test" was devised by professor Georges Gacon (in 1994), the French National Team Manager of middle-distance race runners from 1984 to 1994, and former fitness trainer with French football club Marseille plus others. It is another intermittent style test, with 45 seconds of running, with 15 seconds rest, with the running distance (and therefore the running speed) incrementally increasing. The test is mostly performed by soccer players in Europe. The test has been validated by Assadi and Lepers (2012). There is a similar 30-15 Intermittent Fitness Test (30-15 IFT) with 30 seconds efforts and 15 seconds rest.

 

purpose: to measure intermittent running ability and aerobic fitness in soccer players

equipment required: oval or running track, measuring tape, marker cones, whistle, stopwatch.

pre-test: Explain the test procedures to the subject. Perform screening of health risks and obtain informed consent. Prepare forms and record basic information such as age, height, body weight, gender, test conditions. Measure and mark out the course. Ensure that the participants are adequately warmed-up. See more details of pre-test procedures.

course setup: Mark out a track with cones at the distance of 125m, 131.25m, 137.5m etc.

procedure: All participants line up at the starting line. Players are required to run 125 metres within 45 seconds. Upon completion, they are given 15 seconds to rest. When the 15 seconds are up, they repeat the run in the opposite direction back to the starting cone, but this time the distance is increased by 6.25m to 131.25m. For each repetition, the distance is increased by 6.25m while the running (45sec) and the rest time (15sec) remains constant (see table). The athletes continue until they are unable to cover the set distance in 45 seconds.

Stage	Distance (m)	Avg. pace (min/km)	Ave speed (km/hr)	Total Distance (m)
1	125	6:00	10	125
2	131.25	5:43	10.5	256.25
3	137.5	5:27	11	393.75
4	143.75	5:13	11.5	537.5
5	150	5:00	12	687.5
6	156.25	4:48	12.5	843.75
7	162.5	4:37	13	1006.25
8	168.75	4:27	13.5	1175
9	175	4:17	14	1350
10	181.25	4:08	14.5	1531.25
11	187.5	4:00	15	1718.75
12	193.75	3:52	15.5	1912.5
13	200	3:45	16	2112.5
14	206.25	3:38	16.5	2318.75
15	212.5	3:31	17	2531.25
16	218.75	3:26	17.5	2750
17	225	3:20	18	2975
18	231.25	3:15	18.5	3206.25
19	237.5	3:10	19	3443.75
20	243.75	3:05	19.5	3687.5
21	250	3:00	20	3937.5
22	256.25	2:56	20.5	4193.75
23	262.5	2:52	21	4456.25
24	268.75	2:48	21.5	4725
25	275	2:44	22	5000

Edited April 12 by Mark Kelly

[My Blood Is Blue]

Now Disasi is injured, that completes the list. Every outfield player in our squad has now been injured at some point this season. Crisis? What injury crisis?

[xceleryx]

10 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

Here's' why our players are always injured and are now also ill .

This is what they do all day every day:

Gacon Test (Running 45"/15")

The "Gacon test" was devised by professor Georges Gacon (in 1994), the French National Team Manager of middle-distance race runners from 1984 to 1994, and former fitness trainer with French football club Marseille plus others. It is another intermittent style test, with 45 seconds of running, with 15 seconds rest, with the running distance (and therefore the running speed) incrementally increasing. The test is mostly performed by soccer players in Europe. The test has been validated by Assadi and Lepers (2012). There is a similar 30-15 Intermittent Fitness Test (30-15 IFT) with 30 seconds efforts and 15 seconds rest.

 

purpose: to measure intermittent running ability and aerobic fitness in soccer players

equipment required: oval or running track, measuring tape, marker cones, whistle, stopwatch.

pre-test: Explain the test procedures to the subject. Perform screening of health risks and obtain informed consent. Prepare forms and record basic information such as age, height, body weight, gender, test conditions. Measure and mark out the course. Ensure that the participants are adequately warmed-up. See more details of pre-test procedures.

course setup: Mark out a track with cones at the distance of 125m, 131.25m, 137.5m etc.

procedure: All participants line up at the starting line. Players are required to run 125 metres within 45 seconds. Upon completion, they are given 15 seconds to rest. When the 15 seconds are up, they repeat the run in the opposite direction back to the starting cone, but this time the distance is increased by 6.25m to 131.25m. For each repetition, the distance is increased by 6.25m while the running (45sec) and the rest time (15sec) remains constant (see table). The athletes continue until they are unable to cover the set distance in 45 seconds.

Stage	Distance (m)	Avg. pace (min/km)	Ave speed (km/hr)	Total Distance (m)
1	125	6:00	10	125
2	131.25	5:43	10.5	256.25
3	137.5	5:27	11	393.75
4	143.75	5:13	11.5	537.5
5	150	5:00	12	687.5
6	156.25	4:48	12.5	843.75
7	162.5	4:37	13	1006.25
8	168.75	4:27	13.5	1175
9	175	4:17	14	1350
10	181.25	4:08	14.5	1531.25
11	187.5	4:00	15	1718.75
12	193.75	3:52	15.5	1912.5
13	200	3:45	16	2112.5
14	206.25	3:38	16.5	2318.75
15	212.5	3:31	17	2531.25
16	218.75	3:26	17.5	2750
17	225	3:20	18	2975
18	231.25	3:15	18.5	3206.25
19	237.5	3:10	19	3443.75
20	243.75	3:05	19.5	3687.5
21	250	3:00	20	3937.5
22	256.25	2:56	20.5	4193.75
23	262.5	2:52	21	4456.25
24	268.75	2:48	21.5	4725
25	275	2:44	22	5000

Doesn't explain why injuries have been a significant issue for us for several years now, long before Poch and current ownership were around.

Nor does it have any influence on the lengthy injury lists other clubs in the league are also having.

I know you love to scorn Poch whenever possible but I'd expect a pretty clued on bloke as yourself to see the bigger picture here. 

[Mark Kelly]

4 hours ago, xceleryx said:

Doesn't explain why injuries have been a significant issue for us for several years now, long before Poch and current ownership were around.

Nor does it have any influence on the lengthy injury lists other clubs in the league are also having.

I know you love to scorn Poch whenever possible but I'd expect a pretty clued on bloke as yourself to see the bigger picture here. 

My personal view is that the kind of injuries we are seeing at Chelsea would be exacerbated by this type of training , a training regime that Pochettino is wedded to.

Of course there are other factors , tiredness , over playing , the physical nature of the league but maybe Pochettino could lay off this and concentrate a bit more on the shape of the side in and out of transition , defending and attacking as a unit and set pieces?

I think he likes his clip board and whistle too much though.

[xceleryx]

2 hours ago, Mark Kelly said:

My personal view is that the kind of injuries we are seeing at Chelsea would be exacerbated by this type of training , a training regime that Pochettino is wedded to.

Of course there are other factors , tiredness , over playing , the physical nature of the league but maybe Pochettino could lay off this and concentrate a bit more on the shape of the side in and out of transition , defending and attacking as a unit and set pieces?

I think he likes his clip board and whistle too much though.

I could see it being an issue over pre-season when I'd expect to see this sort of intense regime, however I'm skeptical that we're taking this approach during the season, much less when we've been playing as frequently as we have done. 

No team really trains fitness outside of pre-season and or with individuals are coming back from injury and need the work before returning to match. 

All assumptions either way.

[Floyd25]

We’ve decided to sign players who before joining us, had recurring knee injuries, hamstring injuries and knee ligament damage, some top level scouting going on here. 

[xceleryx]

Appears Enzo is still struggling with his hernia issue that developed earlier in the season. Has been playing with injections but sounding as if he may require surgery to fix properly which would have a three week recovery period. 

[paulw66]

Injury list down to 7.

Disasi, Enzo back. 

[chiswickblue]

1 hour ago, paulw66 said:

Injury list down to 7.

Disasi, Enzo back. 

Almost the lowest it's been all season, especially with 2 of them being in partial team training. The detail provided about the long-term absentees is frutstrating though. Updates have been provided on James, Fofana and Lavia from time to time, but very little on Colwill and especially Ugochukwa.

[paulw66]

22 minutes ago, chiswickblue said:

Almost the lowest it's been all season,

I would suggest it is THE lowest it has been all season

[Ham]

2 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

I would suggest it is THE lowest it has been all season

Possibly last season too. 

[Bison]

Looks like no Palmer tomorrow.

[Ham]

3 hours ago, Bison said:

Looks like no Palmer tomorrow.

I don't care if he has to wear a nappy for chronic diarrhea, I'd play him. 

[Bison]

1 hour ago, Ham said:

I don't care if he has to wear a nappy for chronic diarrhea, I'd play him. 

Steady on, I know you're a big Chilwell fan but we can live without him.

 

 

 

 

😜

[xceleryx]

Basically says that Enzo will have surgery tomorrow on his hernia, will look to be fit for the Copa America. 

[Mark Kelly]

5 hours ago, xceleryx said:

Basically says that Enzo will have surgery tomorrow on his hernia, will look to be fit for the Copa America. 

Priorities 

[east lower]

6 hours ago, xceleryx said:

Basically says that Enzo will have surgery tomorrow on his hernia, will look to be fit for the Copa America. 

Nice, hope it all goes swimmingly for him. 

41 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

Priorities 

Indeed

No coincidence that one of best performances of the season was without him. Far as I’m concerned if we can take/afford a £30m loss on him, get him gone.

Staggeringly poor buy. 

[Bison]

Wonder what the excuse will be next season when he returns exactly the same.

[Ham]

Watch Gallagher and Caicedo get injured now. 

[Mark Kelly]

7 minutes ago, Ham said:

Watch Gallagher and Caicedo get injured now. 

And Palmer remain "ill" 

[east lower]

19 minutes ago, Ham said:

Watch Gallagher and Caicedo get injured now. 

 

6 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said:

And Palmer remain "ill" 

What might happen, might show if there actually is support for the coach from inside the dressing room.