Official: Chelsea sign Nicolas Jackson on an 8 Year Contract

[Bison]

Winner yesterday. Strange, thought he only scored when the team was 3-0 up?

[Mark Kelly]

He's had an excellent first season , I've been largely impressed by him , and very good value for money too.

[martin1905]

14 goals and 5 assists in 29 starts.

A goal every other game.

A goal contribution every 137 minutes.

22 years old and what, £32m(?).

Got to be one of the signings of the season, by any club. 

Tremendous work by the scouting department,  the dynamic duo and the whole of the TBSD to get such a fine, young player for such a bargain price.

[ROTG]

23 minutes ago, martin1905 said:

14 goals and 5 assists in 29 starts.

A goal every other game.

A goal contribution every 137 minutes.

22 years old and what, £32m(?).

Got to be one of the signings of the season, by any club. 

Tremendous work by the scouting department,  the dynamic duo and the whole of the TBSD to get such a fine, young player for such a bargain price.

Great No2 for a top 4 club.

Guess that why he is  our No1

[boratsbrother]

14 minutes ago, ROTG said:

Great No2 for a top 4 club.

Guess that why he is  our No1

Yet in a much worse team he has managed to score more goals than any Arsenal forward. Furthermore, he's had  a consistent season while Havertz was  crap for the first half of Arsenal's season.

 

 

 

[east lower]

45 minutes ago, martin1905 said:

14 goals and 5 assists in 29 starts.

A goal every other game.

A goal contribution every 137 minutes.

22 years old and what, £32m(?).

Got to be one of the signings of the season, by any club. 

Tremendous work by the scouting department,  the dynamic duo and the whole of the TBSD to get such a fine, young player for such a bargain price.

Watched the pertinent bits of MOTD on iPlayer after getting back and there is a few minutes on there where they discuss Nicolas. 
 
You could see the player that was potentially in there and when you consider that 3 or so years ago, he’s playing on dirt pitches in his home country - what we’re seeing is a meteoric elevation in terms of standard. He’s operating in the hardest and toughest league in the world for a forward and more than holding his own already.

Misses a few chances, which striker doesn’t? Plus I like his spikey, abrasive nature and doesn’t he love a celebration such as yesterday 👏🏼

And the last paragraph was naughty 😂 perhaps?

Edited May 12 by east lower

[thevelourfog]

He's an infuriating watch, but that is because he's doing so much of his learning and developing right in front of us in senior games when it'd usually be done in youth games with basically no one watching. If next season is even half as big a step up, he'll be a superstar. The tough question for me is who do we bring in up front so that we're not reliant on Jackson without killing his momentum. 

[ROTG]

2 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

Yet in a much worse team he has managed to score more goals than any Arsenal forward. Furthermore, he's had  a consistent season while Havertz was  crap for the first half of Arsenal's season.

 

 

 

So has solanke, and Watkins to name a couple so what’s your point?

[paulw66]

4 hours ago, east lower said:

Watched the pertinent bits of MOTD on iPlayer after getting back and there is a few minutes on there where they discuss Nicolas. 
 
You could see the player that was potentially in there and when you consider that 3 or so years ago, he’s playing on dirt pitches in his home country - what we’re seeing is a meteoric elevation in terms of standard. He’s operating in the hardest and toughest league in the world for a forward and more than holding his own already.

Misses a few chances, which striker doesn’t? Plus I like his spikey, abrasive nature and doesn’t he love a celebration such as yesterday 👏🏼

And the last paragraph was naughty 😂 perhaps?

Love that he doesn't hide. Misses a chance, and he's straight back in the box looking for the next one 

 

We've had forwards before who have shrunk with every miss

[boratsbrother]

38 minutes ago, paulw66 said:

Love that he doesn't hide. Misses a chance, and he's straight back in the box looking for the next one 

 

We've had forwards before who have shrunk with every miss

Morata was blessed with a lot more natural technical ability than Jackson but  unfortunately half of Jackson's character and mental strength.

 

[boratsbrother]

3 hours ago, ROTG said:

So has solanke, and Watkins to name a couple so what’s your point?

Errr..my point is the price of olive oil has rocketed lately 

 

[ROTG]

16 minutes ago, boratsbrother said:

Errr..my point is the price of olive oil has rocketed lately 

 

The price of orange juice has collapsed 

trading places would be a good idea 

 

[chara]

I posted my humble opinion of Jackson and stick by it.....not sure I can explain it properly but I get the feeling that IF Chelsea can get a real striker #1 Jackson would fill the hole Eidur left,,,never quite been replaced,,,the extra unheralded wild card element that caused all sorts of mainly unremarked issues for defences.

(Haven't forgotten our long term injured striker who came on yesterday)

Edited May 12 by chara

[east lower]

1 hour ago, boratsbrother said:

Morata was blessed with a lot more natural technical ability than Jackson but  unfortunately half of Jackson's character and mental strength.

 

And only one of two vital components!

[ROTG]

7 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

Yet in a much worse team he has managed to score more goals than any Arsenal forward. Furthermore, he's had  a consistent season while Havertz was  crap for the first half of Arsenal's season.

 

 

 

Havertz at 21 didn’t fluff his lines a major cup competition. 

Edited May 12 by ROTG
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[boratsbrother]

1 hour ago, ROTG said:

Havertz at 21 didn’t fluff his lines a major cup competition. 

A peaktime JT fluffed his lines in the biggest cup final there is, so what's your point?

Do you judge a player on one great moment (and it was a great moment) in one big cup final, or judge them on what they do week in week out for their team?

Facts.

Jackson's first season after a major step up in the level he's played at before. He's outscored an experienced Havertz who's had the luxuary of playing in a much better team.

In Havertz first season at Chelsea he scored a whopping 4 league goals.

In his second season he scored 8 league goals.

In his third season he scored  7.

So, in his combined three seasons at Chelsea, Havertz  scored 5 more goals than Jackson has in one season and Jackson still has 2 more games to play.

End of debate!

[xceleryx]

17 hours ago, thevelourfog said:

He's an infuriating watch, but that is because he's doing so much of his learning and developing right in front of us in senior games when it'd usually be done in youth games with basically no one watching. If next season is even half as big a step up, he'll be a superstar. The tough question for me is who do we bring in up front so that we're not reliant on Jackson without killing his momentum. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up spending a bit more time out wide if we're to get another #9 in that's deemed first choice. We've seen glimpses of this when we've fielded Nkunku and Jackson together already. Might be an opening out there as well for additional time depending on what we opt to do with Sterling. 

[xceleryx]

7 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

A peaktime JT fluffed his lines in the biggest cup final there is, so what's your point?

Do you judge a player on one great moment (and it was a great moment) in one big cup final, or judge them on what they do week in week out for their team?

Facts.

Jackson's first season after a major step up in the level he's played at before. He's outscored an experienced Havertz who's had the luxuary of playing in a much better team.

In Havertz first season at Chelsea he scored a whopping 4 league goals.

In his second season he scored 8 league goals.

In his third season he scored  7.

So, in his combined three seasons at Chelsea, Havertz  scored 5 more goals than Jackson has in one season and Jackson still has 2 more games to play.

End of debate!

He was linked with Bournemouth though, so none of this counts. 🙄

[My Blood Is Blue]

I find it very strange that anyone would criticise Jackson after this season. Has he been perfect? No, but he has probably contributed more to the side this season than we could reasonably expect, given his background and lack of experience. I also think we have many more players and reasons to be frustrated than this guy.

He can be frustrating at times, but we knew we hadn’t signed a complete player and that he needed time to develop, which he absolutely he has over this season. 

Compare him to some of the recent flops we’ve signed as strikers at this club, and his output is very decent. It doesn’t mean he’s going to be a world class striker, but not many of those exist anymore anyway.

[Sciatika]

Only criticising in the sense of having a moan in the pub afterwards. It's traditional. 

[ROTG]

13 hours ago, boratsbrother said:

End of debate!

There was never a debate just a case of you clutch at straws trying to prove Jackson is something he is really not

[Thiago97]

28 minutes ago, ROTG said:

There was never a debate just a case of you clutch at straws trying to prove Jackson is something he is really not

Sometimes you just need to save yourself from the agony of the situation and row back. This really is one of those times.

The problem with where your argument on Jackson collapses is that absolutely zero people on here have built him up to be something he is not. The vast majority all agree he can be frustrating, he is far from the finished article, he is not at the level to spearhead a title challenge in the next 1-2 seasons (he may never end up that player either)

The main reason you have taken some stick on this is because you had a complete guess up based on the clubs who liked Jackson. That was your metric for judging the player.  It's easy to disguise things however you want and claim he is not Chelsea level, we haven't won anything, we will be looking for another striker in the summer....all as some sort of justification for Jackson not cutting the mustard here.

The reality is that you had a guess up and got it wrong. In many ways , its not actually as bad as praising/criticising a signing based on your judgement of watching them. That's getting it completley wrong. You just took a wild stab in the dark and got it wrong, nothing that bad really. At least just own it though and hold your hands up to it.

He may never become a top class striker, but I don't see anyone saying he will. However, to sign a young inexperienced striker for £30m and to have to throw him in nearly every week to lead the line with little to no senior guidance around him, and he returns some positive numbers for his first season at this level.......well its just bizarre to not recognise and praise this. It's an excellent achievement , even more so when you take the whole context of the last 18 months at Chelsea into account.

The moral of all this is don't have a guess up unless you actually know the player in question.

 

[paulw66]

15 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

 

He may never become a top class striker, but I don't see anyone saying he will. However, to sign a young inexperienced striker for £30m and to have to throw him in nearly every week to lead the line with little to no senior guidance around him, and he returns some positive numbers for his first season at this level.......well its just bizarre to not recognise and praise this. It's an excellent achievement , even more so when you take the whole context of the last 18 months at Chelsea into account.

 

 

This, in a nutshell. 

Who knows what the future brings, but imagine if he gets another 3 in the last 2 games, and we're talking about 20 goals in a debut season, with no penalties. 

[ROTG]

56 minutes ago, Thiago97 said:

Sometimes you just need to save yourself from the agony of the situation and row back. This really is one of those times.

The problem with where your argument on Jackson collapses is that absolutely zero people on here have built him up to be something he is not. The vast majority all agree he can be frustrating, he is far from the finished article, he is not at the level to spearhead a title challenge in the next 1-2 seasons (he may never end up that player either)

The main reason you have taken some stick on this is because you had a complete guess up based on the clubs who liked Jackson. That was your metric for judging the player.  It's easy to disguise things however you want and claim he is not Chelsea level, we haven't won anything, we will be looking for another striker in the summer....all as some sort of justification for Jackson not cutting the mustard here.

The reality is that you had a guess up and got it wrong. In many ways , its not actually as bad as praising/criticising a signing based on your judgement of watching them. That's getting it completley wrong. You just took a wild stab in the dark and got it wrong, nothing that bad really. At least just own it though and hold your hands up to it.

He may never become a top class striker, but I don't see anyone saying he will. However, to sign a young inexperienced striker for £30m and to have to throw him in nearly every week to lead the line with little to no senior guidance around him, and he returns some positive numbers for his first season at this level.......well its just bizarre to not recognise and praise this. It's an excellent achievement , even more so when you take the whole context of the last 18 months at Chelsea into account.

The moral of all this is don't have a guess up unless you actually know the player in question.

 

No guessing by me, it’s about analysing what he’s done and when he’s done it during a game.  
 

although he has hit some decent numbers a majority of them were when the team was coasting. Cant remember him scoring the all important goal to win a game.  

[chiswickblue]

34 minutes ago, ROTG said:

No guessing by me, it’s about analysing what he’s done and when he’s done it during a game.  
 

although he has hit some decent numbers a majority of them were when the team was coasting. Cant remember him scoring the all important goal to win a game.  

He literally scored the winning goal in our last match.