xceleryx Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4. Man City are CHARGED with breaking the Premier League's financial rules more than 100 TIMES over sponsors and contracts - and could face a points deduction or even EXPULSION Huge news. Edited February 6, 2023 by xceleryx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It's about time. Disgusting they got out of their CL ban from a few years ago, Leicester City were robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, xceleryx said: In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4. Man City are CHARGED with breaking the Premier League's financial rules more than 100 TIMES over sponsors and contracts - and could face a points deduction or even EXPULSION Huge news. They’ve been investigating them for nearly 4 years so they must have gathered a fair amount of evidence. Since some of the charges go back as far as 2009 is there a possibility that they can be stripped of their titles/cup wins? I’m not a rule knowing person so if anyone else is knowledgeable on the matter… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xceleryx Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, chrisb said: They’ve been investigating them for nearly 4 years so they must have gathered a fair amount of evidence. Since some of the charges go back as far as 2009 is there a possibility that they can be stripped of their titles/cup wins? I’m not a rule knowing person so if anyone else is knowledgeable on the matter… No idea, I suppose we'll all find that out together as it happens. Will certainly be interesting to see how it unfolds though, may even mean Pep walks depending on the penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Fascinating... nice that it isn't Chelsea for once. I would be shocked if they managed to be cleared of everything again, the PL have been investigating them for years, building up a lot of evidence and would not have taken this step, against one of their own teams, lightly. Going to be a long process, but I am intrigued to see what starts coming out in terms of rule breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, chrisb said: They’ve been investigating them for nearly 4 years so they must have gathered a fair amount of evidence. Since some of the charges go back as far as 2009 is there a possibility that they can be stripped of their titles/cup wins? I’m not a rule knowing person so if anyone else is knowledgeable on the matter… If that is the case, 2 clubs will benefit: 2012: United 2014: Liverpool 2018: United 2019: Liverpool 2021: United 2022: Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, CarefreeMuratcan said: If that is the case, 2 clubs will benefit: 2012: United 2014: Liverpool 2018: United 2019: Liverpool 2021: United 2022: Liverpool Fingers crossed they don’t then! 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Blood Is Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Jumping way ahead and just thinking about potential outcomes… If City were to be kicked out the PL and dropped down a couple of divisions, what do people think their chances would be of getting back up to their current heights in decent time? It happened to Juventus and they bounced back pretty quick, but that must have been in part because of their name and history and so players and staff were happy to stick with them and join them etc, whereas I’m not so sure Man City will have that pull and if the money they’ve claimed to have been generating is no longer there, then why would people stick around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/share/12804623 An explainer on the charges/potential outcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, xceleryx said: In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4. Man City are CHARGED with breaking the Premier League's financial rules more than 100 TIMES over sponsors and contracts - and could face a points deduction or even EXPULSION Huge news. ❝Just hours after Man City were charged by Premier League with numerous breaches of financial rules following a four-year investigation, those same charges have been declared null and void by the league’s new owner, Sheikh Mansour.❞ https://newsthump.com/2023/02/06/manchester-citys-funding-irregularities-disappear-after-sheikh-mansour-buys-the-premier-league/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Jumping way ahead and just thinking about potential outcomes… If City were to be kicked out the PL and dropped down a couple of divisions, what do people think their chances would be of getting back up to their current heights in decent time? It happened to Juventus and they bounced back pretty quick, but that must have been in part because of their name and history and so players and staff were happy to stick with them and join them etc, whereas I’m not so sure Man City will have that pull and if the money they’ve claimed to have been generating is no longer there, then why would people stick around? Very very tricky for City to do what Juventus did if they are charged. City are not the same legitimate organic "brand" (sorry for using this word) that the rest of the Big 6 PL teams are, they do not generate the same revenue to be able to flex their muscles out of a situation as the rest of us are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, My Blood Is Blue said: Jumping way ahead and just thinking about potential outcomes… If City were to be kicked out the PL and dropped down a couple of divisions, what do people think their chances would be of getting back up to their current heights in decent time? I suspect they would become much the team they were before the buyout. Going up and down the leagues and never achieving anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) According to Martyn Ziegler of The Times, City won't be able to appeal to the CAS, which is what saved them when UEFA charged them with (fewer) similar breaches a few seasons ago. Edited February 6, 2023 by Bob Singleton Correction made: Martin to Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kelly Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I'm sure in a few days the media will make this all about Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The "charge sheet": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 There really is only one punishment if they are found guilty. Back to league 2, where they belong. We will be all over Pep, you can guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, martin1905 said: There really is only one punishment if they are found guilty. Back to league 2, where they belong. We will be all over Pep, you can guarantee it. ... and Haaland!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarefreeMuratcan Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, martin1905 said: There really is only one punishment if they are found guilty. Back to league 2, where they belong. We will be all over Pep, you can guarantee it. 6 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said: ... and Haaland!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1905 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Not sure if they will get stripped of their league wins as the Premier league will follow whatever UEFA do and apparently they won't be striping them of any European titles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, Mark Kelly said: I'm sure in a few days the media will make this all about Chelsea If we hadn't destroyed football from 2004 onwards, City would not have been forced to ignore the financial regulations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holymoly Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Of course up here in Scotland there is the precedent of Rangers being demoted to the 3rd division for financial irregularities. For a similar response to be applied to City should the allegations be proved there would need to be a number of steps. #1. Premier League votes to remove the club #2 The EFL would then need to vote to accept them presumably then secondly would need to decide which league to parachute them into. I seriously doubt it will ever come to this however as City will be able to mobilise a huge legal task force and tie this up for years if things seem to be going poorly for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the league wimps out in the end and just issues a fine and/or transfer ban which the club will find some means to circumvent. In the world of football money talks. I wouldn't be partaking of any schadenfreude just yet though. Just a matter of time before a petition is begun to exact some form of similar retribution on this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singleton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holymoly said: Of course up here in Scotland there is the precedent of Rangers being demoted to the 3rd division for financial irregularities. [SNIP] Actually Rangers were not demoted for financial irregularities. The financial irregularities resulted in the old Rangers FC going bust and a new club being formed. Under the SFA rules, the 'new' Rangers had nothing to do with the 'old' Rangers, so had to be treated as a whole new entity... and that's why the current Rangers started in the 3rd Division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holymoly Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bob Singleton said: Actually Rangers were not demoted for financial irregularities. The financial irregularities resulted in the old Rangers FC going bust and a new club being formed. Technically it was the company that went bust, the club was transferred to another company as part of an asset transfer by the liquidators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciatika Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, martin1905 said: There really is only one punishment if they are found guilty. Back to league 2, where they belong. We will be all over Pep, you can guarantee it. I was thinking Vanarama National League North. However, I do have some things to be grateful to them for. In those seasons when they won things, it was preferable to the alternatives because I could put it down to money. If it weren't for them it would have been Man Utd (2012/3), Liverpool (2013/4), Man Utd (2017/8), Liverpool (2018/9), Man Utd (2020/1), Liverpool (2021/2). Also, in some cases, they won by only a point or two, so they did, at least, make it competitive. When RA came in, the league had become a competition between Arsenal and Man Utd and it had become dull. RA changed that. At least now we have a half dozen teams who could win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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