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Matchday prediction  

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  1. 1. Who lifts the trophy and how?

    • Chelsea after 90min
      15
    • Chelsea AET
      2
    • Chelsea penalties
      3
    • Liverpool after 90min
      7
    • Liverpool AET
      4
    • Liverpool penalties
      1


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7 hours ago, chara said:

OK..I'm really an OG in every way so please indulge an old man's possibly unwarranted concerns.... when ever I read a post game hys postings anywhere ..mainly Guardian/BBC..I usually give up in despair as the inevitable tribal comments start to overwhelm any real game comments..mainly from the scouse lot and the manure lot...regardless of any relevant involvement and as often as not no relevance to the game in question,

The questions set out by our very polite, literate visitor reek to me of a journalistic trawling effort...The sort of innocent questions that can be easily twisted toi reflect badly on us and our club...I enjoy reading other viewpoints but in general have little interest in the in depth discussions of other fans regarding theirclub internal matters or any discussion here similar to the recent on loan performance of one of our youngsters.

Just my puzzled view .... WHY?

Again, I sit quietly in Khobars long shadow.

Apologies if I am out of order and/or wrong and by no means intend insult.

Trust your instincts Chara - I agree with you.I lived and worked in Liverpool.There is no way a scouser would be so nice to a Chelsea supporter,never mind want to indulge in a Chelsea forum.

Don't get me wrong I loved my time there and I loved the people,but when it came to football they are insular like most supporters from any team,unlike most Man U supporters that I have met who are delusional and quite frankly thick.

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15 minutes ago, kev61 said:

like most supporters from any team,unlike most Man U supporters that I have met who are delusional and quite frankly thick.

............and a long way from Manchester!😁

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14 minutes ago, chara said:

............and a long way from Manchester!😁

In fairness one of the few people I have time for is a Man U fan in my small town.He played at quite a high level until he was struck down with mental illness- but he still  hits the nail on the head discussing football.

He is the only thing I will miss when we get out of here 

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3 hours ago, kev61 said:

In fairness one of the few people I have time for is a Man U fan in my small town.He played at quite a high level until he was struck down with mental illness- but he still  hits the nail on the head discussing football.

He is the only thing I will miss when we get out of here 

Quick note ///hope you have the wherewithall  when you move to keep contact on here!

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Hi @Zlen - some great questions which I've taken a stab at below.  

 How do you feel about your season so far under Pochetino? Is he on a trajectory to something or is the maze of new players proving too tricky to navigate?   I don't think I'm saying anything particularly controversial if I said that most fans - if not all fans - don't see Poch as the long-term solution.  My personal view is that he's been dealt a difficult hand (turnover of players, injuries etc) but has made plenty of mistakes along the way.  He is fine for the time being though as our problems are much bigger than the manager.  I do think we can further improve under him too,  I just think there will be a ceiling. 

 Who do you see as the best purchase so far of the 'Wild Boehly Years', both in terms of present impact but also one you see as the possible future cornerstone?   Cole Palmer and Malo Gusto are probably the two stand-outs so far this season and both clearly exceptional young talents.   That said, most of our transfer business has been really good and I think Petrovic, Nkunku, Fernandez, Caicedo, Jackson etc will all show their quality over time.   People forget just how hard it is to adapt to the premier league as a young player.  The problem with our business is that we've been exclusively young players and then added them to a team with Gallagher and Colwill etc.  You could also argue that we lack experience / quality in forward areas albeit seemed to have turned a corner here of late.    In isolation, we've really not got many wrong since the new Sporting Directors were in place.   

So, is Conor Gallagher now the one player Chelsea should both definitely sell and at the same time definitely keep and build their team around  Keep - no question about it.   We have plenty of other players to sale before him, both from the academy i.e. Chalobah, Maatsen, Broja, Anjorin, Hall etc and then from our senior squad - Lukaku, Ziyech, Sarr, Kepa, Cucurella etc

Do you think that defeat, as it was quite recent, will galvanise your team ahead of the final?   To be honest, not really.  I'm expecting a better performance, but we don't seem to have that mentality yet.   Some of the old Mourinho, Conte, Tuchel teams would be baying for blood, but this lot have a long way to go. 

 If you could pick one Liverpool player you do not want to see starting at Wembley - who would it be and why?   VVD is an obvious one as a leader and because of the way he marshals your back-line.  Curveball but I'd be quite pleased to see Jota on the bench too!   His goals to games ratio is incredible. 

Who is one Chelsea player you would want to both start and also have a good game at Wembley and why?   Enzo was superb in the earlier fixture this season and if he plays well, the team will play well.   The other one is Cole Palmer.   Already our main creative force up top.   So one of those two. 

Do you think the week of rest will benefit you (players returning, working on tactics) or would you prefer to play and keep your players sharp?   Week of rest allowing us to fully focus

But how do you see the game playing out? Are we finally going to get something other than a wrestling match and see some free flowing, goal-scoring football?   No idea, I thought the recent game would be tight and it was anything but!   Only thing I would say is most finals tend to be quite cagey  so if pushed I see us losing by the odd goal. 

 Do you think you'll end the season in european places and do if not - would you still hope the owner sticks with Pochetino? Also do you think you'll have another 'wild transfer summer' (is it even needed) or will it be more a case of re-balancing the squad and the books and adding few smart additions to the squad?   I don't think we'll make Europe, I think there are too many teams above us.  I think we could leap-frog one or maybe two but not three or four.   I'm a bit nonplussed on Poch to be honest.  Wouldn't lose any sleep if he went, but happy enough for him to stay.  Main priorities have to be to sign a striker, renew Gallagher's contract, get the likes of Lavia and James properly fit, and then a couple of ins/out.   

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Jota has just gone off injured and TNT Sports are all over the Liverpool 'injury crisis".

I can't remember a time when we only had 5 players missing. Halcyon days. 

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31 minutes ago, Ham said:

Jota has just gone off injured and TNT Sports are all over the Liverpool 'injury crisis".

I can't remember a time when we only had 5 players missing. Halcyon days. 

I will say the say extent of their injuries (not getting involved in the crisis argument...) does make me think now we really can win the cup. If they were at full strength and we full strength - no chance in my mind

 

 

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Oh my lord. What do you have to do to get a penalty v Liverpool? 

The most blatant foul imaginable on Toney and check complete within seconds. Seems familiar. 

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18 minutes ago, Ham said:

Oh my lord. What do you have to do to get a penalty v Liverpool? 

The most blatant foul imaginable on Toney and check complete within seconds. Seems familiar. 

I really don't know why we're bothering to play them. It's a foregone conclusion. And the ref will definitely have the biggest say in it. 

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2 hours ago, Max Fowler said:

I will say the say extent of their injuries (not getting involved in the crisis argument...) does make me think now we really can win the cup. If they were at full strength and we full strength - no chance in my mind

One draw on his inhaler, and he will be fine.

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Just now, JaneB said:

 

Hero to Zero ☹️

Nothing anti-Silva.  More a case of pro the alternative. 

Silva is, and will always be, a legend but time has caught up with him. 

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26 minutes ago, Ham said:

Nothing anti-Silva.  More a case of pro the alternative. 

Silva is, and will always be, a legend but time has caught up with him. 

I know Ham ☹️
 

It’s just he’s been so wonderful for us, a king amongst men for so long 👑 and I can’t forget that.

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8 hours ago, Ham said:

Forgive me Mods but MOTD, you can fuck right off.

 

 

But how wonderful it will be to beat them; the "nation's favourites" - poor them, struggling with injuries, a manager on his way out, referees always against them, VAR always wrong with them.......

😁😁😁

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1 minute ago, asvaberg said:

But how wonderful it will be to beat them; the "nation's favourites" - poor them, struggling with injuries, a manager on his way out, referees always against them, VAR always wrong with them.......

😁😁😁

Instead it will be VAR doing everything they can to ensure the result goes the 'right' way and then the headlines are written already... 'Plucky Liverpool, with so many players out, fight against the billionaires to win a trophy as part of Sir Klopp's final farewell🤮🤮🤮

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